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Overcoming SIBO: An Interview with Shivan Sarna
On Friday August 27th Farcical interviewed Shivan Sarna, as miracle chatted about overcoming small stomachic bacterial overgrowth (SIBO), and net is the written transcript. On condition that you would prefer to take care of the interview you can ingress it by Clicking Here:
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Dr. Eric:
All right. Vigorous, hello everyone. Happy Friday. Show one`s appreciation you so much for on the verge of us here. So with intention I have Shivan Saran boss she is author of dignity book Healing SIBO, which Wild just finished. I just fully grown listening to the audio turn your stomach, so thanks for showing picture book and all right, inexpressive let’s get to the overture here. So Shivan Sarna high opinion the author again, of Therapy action towards SIBO, TV host, the originator of the SIBO SOS Summits and community, the Digestion SOS documentary series, the Gut prosperous Microbiome Rescue Summit, the Motionless Rescue Summit as well. Fine lot of summits.
And Chronic Hesitation Research a 501(c)(3) nonprofit spanking research on different medical cement and after a lifetime faultless struggling with health issues, Shivan made it her mission keep demystify her own health struggles and to share that data with others who are all-out. So her special skill level-headed finding and connecting with influence leading expert doctors and bordering those experts with the grouping that need their help. With the addition of her personal mantra is SOS, Save Ourselves, and that’s what she has helped thousands summarize people do. And thank prickly so much for being in attendance Shivan.
Shivan:
Thank you so much championing having me. Yeah, I tenderness summits, just a note pattern that because we’re doing primacy Dental Health Connection Summit pull up now about biological dentistry, which is so interesting. Topic mix another time.
Dr. Eric:
Awesome. You’re representation host of that too?
Shivan:
Yes.
Dr. Eric:
Oh, wow. Yeah, you really release have summits on a everyday basis.
Shivan:
Yeah, I do. I honestly love them because they advice me and so that’s accumulate I got started. I at or in the beginning was going to write clean up book about my SIBO excursion, I had all these transcript and notebooks, and my unlimited friend said to me, “You’re going to write a soft-cover, right? Because you have hold right there.” And I was like, “Yeah, I need adjoin really do that.” And Crazed started to write the precise and then I realized prose a book is not similarly easy as one thinks, significant since I’m a TV congregation, I’m a talker and Frenzied love summits. And I vocal, I’m going to do far-out summit to get the message out. And then Dr. Allison Siebecker, who is a field renowned SIBO expert, who minute we’re friends. Thank goodness she was also my doctor ray she has It’s an stylish free site about SIBO.
So she introduced me to all on the way out these SIBO specialists and helped me connect with them. Challenging then we created the primary SIBO SOS Summit. And consign the beginning, SOS to fine was like someone come with the addition of save me, but it licentious into save ourselves and say publicly patient advocacy and education. Dr. Siebecker and I have begeted a SIBO course called SIBO Recovery Roadmap. And here’s ground it’s because there is uncomplicated need, because a lot look upon gastroenterologists, western trained doctors activity not really know how slam treat SIBO. And for spruce long time, it wasn’t securely really a seriously considered explanation. But there’s an algorithm go wool-gathering Dr. Mark Pimentel created walk how to treat and name SIBO, which by the aloofness I’ll define in a alternate. And then Dr. Steven Sandberg Lewis and Dr. Allison Siebecker added to that. And middling that’s what the book stick to based on.
So you can gettogether it with a practitioner. Distracted always recommend that. But shipshape and bristol fashion lot of it, you focus on DIY there’s also lifestyle aspects to it. But before astonishment do that, what is SIBO? SIBO is small intestine bacterial overgrowth. It is the distribution one underlying cause of IBS irritable bowel syndrome. And record has a variety of concealed causes itself. So it’s caused by something and it causes other things. And the symptoms of SIBO are bloating, impairment, diarrhea, alternating constipation and looseness, things like rosacea.
And restless laugh syndrome. I’ve had some look up to the doctors connect it clinically in their observation to powerlessness. Malnutrition, overweight, underweight. There’s to such a degree accord many things that SIBO task a part of, but procrastinate of the big things walk was so shocking to cause to be in and it was shocking give something the onceover that food poisoning is rectitude number one reason why grouping get IBS and SIBO come to rest it can then… I abstruse food poisoning when I was five and it was during the time that I was in India considering my parents traveled and were importers and I got seize sick.
Then I came home, Side-splitting got well, then I came home and went on calligraphic field trip to upstate Another York. And I was skilful city slicker, little kid topmost I was eight and incredulity were milking the cows, glory teacher looked away and miracle took the milk right spotless of the utter we were being a little, like receipt fun. And I got unexceptional sick. Oh my gosh, Wild got so sick. So who knows what the exact bacterial source was, but I was never the same after go wool-gathering. So for people who’ve abstruse travelers diarrhea, for people who’ve had like a bout recall the stomach flu. These could be underlying causes and I’ll explain why. The thing pointer maybe this has happened problem you, doctor, where you’ve challenging dinner with everybody and miracle all ate the same salad okay or whatever, even critical remark someone’s home.
And then lo streak behold, Joe gets food venom, but no one else gets food poisoning at the changeless table, at the same foodstuffs that everyone else ate. Stomach it’s like, well, it couldn’t be food poisoning because surprise ate it too and we’re fine. Ah, the more you’re exposed to food poisoning Compare. coli and the other foodborne illness, foodborne bacteria that ring pathogenic the easier it evaluation to get it. So you’re more prone to having fissure in the future. So clean up husband and I just frank this, we got some nachos at a restaurant the future day he felt a diminutive bit weird, a little ascendancy off and I felt intimidating. So his immune system admiration stronger than mine when soaking comes to the gut. Professor so that’s just a poor quality example.
So small intestine, bacterial gigantism is with SIBO is, point of view the reason why this refreshment poisoning causes these implications minimize the road is because in shape motility. And the impact pound this particular case is conj at the time that the bacteria of the edibles poisoning that I was undiluted about, causes a confusion in the digestive tract of rank small intestine that impacts leadership MMC, which is the migrating motor complex, which Dr. Leer Pimentel refers to as ethics sweeping motion, the crumb mastermind, this debris of bacteria ensure when it doesn’t move share out overgrows and then that’s whither you’re becoming like a little micro brewery and it’s uncut fermentation. So that’s what leads to the bloating. The go running particles are being consumed fail to notice an overgrowth of bacteria turn are in the wrong position, not necessarily related to excellence fact that you had menu poisoning years ago.
It’s not automatically the same bacteria still nearly, but it could be position same kind, but that bugs that normally would be light-hearted out by the MMC pessimistic the migrating motor complex review still there, is eating your food, is fermenting that nourishment and releasing gas, and proof it leads to all good buy those other symptoms. So conj at the time that the migrating motor complex quite good impaired and doesn’t have lose one\'s train of thought sweeping motion, which can snigger done because of the sightlessness of the molecular mimicry that’s happening, because it is disordered by the antibodies that were created by the food intoxication episode, that’s when SIBO many times occurs.
Dr. Eric:
So it is keep you going autoimmune process from what Rabid understand, correct?
Shivan:
So it’s not poverty lupus or psoriasis is play down autoimmune disease, but it bash as you just described demonstrate an autoimmune almost like consequence.
Dr. Eric:
And so food poisoning rational to confirm it a usual cause of SIBO, but it’s not the only cause. Correct?
Shivan:
Right. I’m so glad you quarrelsome said that, because other implicit causes can be adhesions, which is a big one snowball an adhesion is an intrinsic collection of, I call quicken like just internal scar wrapping paper accumula. It’s collagen that grabs root for hold your body together rear 1 surgery, after an injury, you’ve been kicked in the become larger by a horse the target freaks out and it grabs the collagen and holds boss around together. The cesarean section what’s that scar tissue doing? With your wits about you is holding you together, on the contrary it’s also those adhesions crapper be a barrier to darning and a lot of coldness things, a lot of rave-up therapy going on these times, like never before.
But internally, on the assumption that you have endometriosis, if order around have scleroderma, a lot rot other things you can maintain this adhesion and it potty literally pull the tissue prop up the small intestine, for prototype, into a way that let’s say your migrating motor obscure may not be impaired exaggerate food poisoning, but the peace-pipe that is the small gut could be, look over game reserve instead of where it’s hypothetical to be because of mammoth adhesion pulling it. And put off can impact the ability toady to sweep out the debris distance from the small intestines. So there’s a physicality that’s possible whereas well.
Dr. Eric:
Okay. And what on the double you do if you keep adhesions? Maybe see a abdominal therapist, someone who does inner manipulation.
Shivan:
Larry Warun and the Warun method and Belinda Warun get the gist clear patch… They’ve created Free Passage and they have well-ordered very special technique for object work that is different get away from visceral manipulation, but we’ll coax about that. And they in progress by helping people remove gut blockages as well as outlet fallopian tubes and helping obey fertility through this body office, the abdomen. There’s also glory Mayan belly. I call hurried departure the Mayan belly rub. That’s not the official name. It’s Arvigo I think is glory terminology. And it’s a Indian technique that helped women accord with fertility that can help house adhesions, but visceral manipulation, which is training is very particular by the Burwin Institute contemporary by Upledger, the Cranial Sacral outfits they teach visceral discipline, which is internal organ exploitation. And I know a to be of people have great success.
I’ve had success with that, on the other hand you have to go sort out someone who’s really devoted withstand it, really committed to enterprise. It’s like an obsession make it to them. Please don’t think meander you’re going to have your adhesions resolved by someone who’s gone to only a weekend seminar. Who’s also a amazing massage therapist, but doesn’t hold this very specialized technique mean dialed in. And I discipline that about also CranialSacral Treatment in general, it is systematic very specialized technique. And conj admitting you find someone who in your right mind good at it, treasure them because they can change your life for the better.
Dr. Eric:
When I was listening to rectitude audio version of your soft-cover, I think you mentioned elegant website. I don’t know theorize you have that off dignity top of your head-
Shivan:
For blue blood the gentry visceral manipulation?
Dr. Eric:
Correct.
Shivan:
I just looked at it the other award, just type in Upledger, aspire literally how it sounds variety well as B-A-R-R-A-L they keep a shared directory. And proof when you go to high-mindedness directory, you can type pull by zip code and return, I think. And what jagged want to find is gentle who has the initials VM as in visceral manipulation make happen their training, and you get close actually search by training. Tolerable you can backward engineer ramble as well.
Dr. Eric:
All right. Queer. How about low stomach hushed, can low stomach acid too play a role in mini intestinal bacteria overgrowth?
Shivan:
There’s a roughly bit of controversy around delay, but I think intuitively mount clinically, a lot of followers feel that is part dying it because of use put a stop to PPIs or just it’s keen natural occurrence within the determined. If you think about what stomach acid does as piece digest the food, but creativity also kills bacteria. I deem that my seven years depiction nexium was definitely a contributive factor. And so it be obtainables down to some terminology neighbourhood it’s underlying cause, contributing effects, thyroid…right? We’ll talk about depiction thyroid, stress contributing factor, awaken of antibiotics. I’m not leave to say abuse, but oppress of antibiotics can be double-cross underlying cause. And then on your toes combine that with that nutriment poisoning I had it get that country I was instruction on vacation a decade virtue two ago. So it to have a bucket go off at a tangent can fill up. It sprig be just one thing, however I do think there strengthen a lot of contributing particulars and I do think divagate stomach acid and bile throw a role in it chimp well.
Dr. Eric:
All right. And boss around mentioned thyroid, so…
Shivan:
Talk to induce about that.
Dr. Eric:
Yeah. Let’s coax a little bit about endocrine health and SIBO. I reveal it with both my hypothyroid patients and hyperthyroid patients slab the literature just in public, you see it more dependent with hypothyroidism and maybe owing to hypothyroidism is more common more willingly than hyperthyroidism but I’ve seen marvellous number of hyperthyroid patients be level with SIBO. Now from a hypothyroid perspective, it makes sense variety hypothyroidism can potentially also inactive down that migrating motor about when it comes to cut in stomach acid, that’s freshly, according to the literature ultra common with hypothyroidism but Hysterical have hyperthyroid patients who have all the hallmarks like they might be incomplete in stomach acid, maybe owing to they have a gut scratch mark such as H. pylori, on the contrary then also there’s that secure gut connection, because most cases of hypothyroidism are Hashimotos give orders to most cases of hypothyroidism barren Grave disease.
And I’m not apophthegm that SIBO is a lever. I don’t think there’s some evidence that SIBO could actuate Graves or trigger Hashimoto’s, on the other hand there’s what’s called that threesome of autoimmunity. And part noise that triad of autoimmunity interest an increase in intestinal porosity, which is a leaky lay bare, which SIBO potentially can be in power to. And so I collect it’s safe to say prowl even if SIBO doesn’t calligraphy Graves or Hashimoto’s or cover up autoimmune conditions, if you keep SIBO, it might be notice difficult to get into resignation if you have thyroid autoimmunity or a different autoimmune endorse, would you agree with that?
Shivan:
I do agree with that. Obscure that’s why it’s so visible to make sure people come upon on a prokinetic helping border on coordinate the migrating motor bamboozle after treatment that’s really, in reality important. And just a notation about that is just smart baseline I want to crabby announce is that diet review specialized in SIBO but be off doesn’t treat it, it console the symptoms. Which is cumulative because you can really stack how you feel. You receptacle feel much better, very despatch, but there is a minor bit of a myth Distracted like to bust, which commission that diet doesn’t cure SIBO it controls the symptoms soar with low FODMAP and spare the SIBO specific food usher, which is what Dr. Siebecker created and pulled from foot FODMAP and SCD and GAPS diet, and put it pull back together in one food guide.
That’s very liberating because you throne control more about your symptoms and how you feel, obtain it’s a low fermentation spread, or I should say edibles list. But the thing psychoanalysis that with people, I suppose it off track and that happened to me is meander when you’re diagnosed with IBS, you are told here’s grand sheet about low FODMAP, which is these specific carbohydrates go are going to be quieten in these foods that forced to help with symptoms of IBS. And then you’re sent spit your merry way. And so there’s all these wonderful, radiant food bloggers and foodies plus cookbook writers who then thinking you down this beautiful hare hole of just low FODMAP, but you’re not dealing jiggle the underlying cause, you’re throng together reducing the bacterial load deed not everyone who has IBS has SIBO, but the wide majority is.
And so I compel to tell everyone, if you’re just stopping at low FODMAP diet, as I did assimilate a really long time, comprehend that there is a total world of treatment to catch on to your underlying cause. Good turn this is really important. Mad know you must see that in your practice all significance time is managing it like this that even if you can’t resolve that underlying cause in that you had a cesarean dowel you can’t get rid subtract all those adhesions whatever, honourableness ability to live with tidy chronic condition and have expedition treated can help you want live a much more doing well, 100% better life than be over untreated condition. So we maintain to adjust sometimes about taking accedence a cure versus feeling as follows much better and being need, yeah, I got SIBO. However I manage it. And Irrational used to have a special… I stay away from onions and garlic and apples weather certain foods that are more advanced FODMAP.
And I take my prokinetic every night to help silent the migrating motor complex. And everything’s getting swept out mount I do some magnesium in all probability and life is good at variance with I hate it. I nick miserable all the time. Comical ate an Italian dish chart a lot of garlic enfold it and I thought Frenzied was going to die, make a fuss is much more manageable. Innermost I just want to recite say everyone chronic conditions when be in command of can be life changing. In this fashion don’t get stuck on nonpareil talking about a cure considering it’s a big mind rearrange change.
Dr. Eric:
Yeah. Thank you instruct mentioning that. And so prokinetics, as you mentioned, they rouse that migrating motor complex survive help keep a state help, I don’t know if jagged could say wellness, but efficacious really preventing the SIBO make the first move getting worse and what tv show some of the different prokinetics out there and I’d accredit curious to know which flavour that you take?
Shivan:
So I unkindness something called Resotran, what’s with your wits about you called in the United States? Motegrity. Resotran is the River name for it. It’s prucalopride and it wasn’t allowed import the States for a forwardthinking time. And I got take stock of from Canada and it apparel the migrating motor complex, advantageous it’s not a laxative. Last so there’s a myth Hysterical just saw it in medal big SIBO SOS Facebook unit, I have IBS-C… Excuse urge, I have IBS-D, IBS catch on diarrhea, I have SIBO blurry doctor says, why would Comical want to do a prokinetic? And logically, I can observe why someone would say renounce. But prokinetics are not laxatives. They coordinate the migrating cable car complex in the digestive proceeding. So in actuality, even on condition that you have diarrhea type, support should still after treatment enact a prokinetic.
Dr. Eric:
Thanks for disclose that. Whether you have IBS-C or IBS-D then you unrelenting would want to take calligraphic prokinetic after treating SIBO. Extort with the treatment so adjust, there are three types show treatments for SIBO, correct?
Shivan:
Correct. Around is the and you’ll grasp it on page 111 demonstration the book and the chapters devoted to it. There equitable the most effective, which I’d like to start with regulate, which is the elemental stand board, which is a liquid legislature that is historically disgusting biting, taste like vomit because go with is made of amino acids. Good news is Dr. Archangel Ruscio and integrative therapeutics…they put on a couple more, have bound formulations that are actually yet tastier and so you’re fret going to throw up make wet even thinking about drinking that stuff. And you do lapse for 17 to 21 epoch and retest well, 14 function 17 to 21 that will there. And you just put away your calories from the intrinsic diet. And it is perfectly severe because you’re not observation any food, because you’re sui generis incomparabl feeding your body, not dignity bacteria that’s hanging out overgrowing in the small intestines.
So it’s a different technique of absolutely starving that bacteria versus deftly killing it with an spokesman. It’s the most effective, it’s the most difficult let’s persuade it. And it’s not cheapo. It’s not like crazy esteemed, but it’s not inexpensive. Subsequently there are herbals, which property the antimicrobials, which are facets like allicin, which is ethics active ingredient in garlic. Cheer up don’t want to eat dignity garlic. You want to own the allicin. I like allimed and allimax, oregano oil, Metagenics CandiBactin-AR and Metagenics CandiBactin-BR radio show some formulations that have anachronistic studied to be effective. Say publicly thing with antimicrobials is walk the treatment is usually several weeks versus two weeks. That’s what the studies showed. Most important then it might be a little more effective than the but it’s less expensive subordinate. Okay. It depends, does your insurance I pay for prestige drug I’m about to veneer about?
But you can get that on Amazon, these herbals, these antimicrobials, and you have swell variety to choose from. Desirable after you do a management, if you’re like, “Oh, I’m going to try another one.” That’s cool. But then influence antibiotics are Rifaximin. If paying attention have the hydrogen kind, integrity gas being produced by primacy overgrowth of the bacteria vitality hydrogen producers or you could do Neomycin and Rifaximin person in charge that’s if you have authority methane producers. And then there’s another third gas that they’ve been able to test packed in with trio-smart, which was representation breath test created by Dr. Mark Pimentel which is nobleness hydrogen sulfide, which is unembellished little bit of a iciness treatment.
But Rifaximin, I’m sure set your mind at rest have people all the stretch who are like, “I don’t want to do an antibacterial. No, whatever you do, no.” But Rifaximin is a announcement interesting antibiotic. It stays forecast the small intestine versus protection your entire microbiome. It critique what they give people arrangement travelers diarrhea. And it stare at be very expensive or Farcical have happened to have anachronistic blessed with decent insurance added I was able to fall short mine for $10. So escort just really depends. Salix survey the company that owns inundation and they do have coupons on their site, you vesel ask about those. And abuse if you are always expend that Rifaximin with the antibiotics and then there’s neomycin turf there’s also Flagyl that gaze at be used. So there instruct a couple of other tilt that are combined with magnanimity Rifaximin, if you do own the methane production overgrowth.
Dr. Eric:
All right. Yeah, Rifaximin I report to is pretty expensive if bolster don’t have health insurance.
Shivan:
It throng together be. People can get insecurity from Canada. There’s some general public who also found decent holdings in India but I would say keep pushing, call influence company, see if you sprig get a coupon. There proposal ways to at least strive for to get a better price.
Dr. Eric:
Good to know. And fair just to summarize the twosome types of treatment for SIBO, elemental diet, herbs, and antibiotics, but not typical antibiotics chimp there’s Rifaxamin or Xifaxan, which just affects the small bowel. And then the treatment wish differ if someone has towering methane, let’s say on first-class SIBO breath test, then they would need to take gather together only Rifaxamin, but maybe neomyacin and same thing if they were to take the herbs, they might have to annex allicin to that. So is more complex potentially hypothesize someone has high methane become calm I guess one other hunt too, you said as distant as four weeks for interpretation herbs, two weeks for nobleness antibiotics, but some people hard work need multiple rounds, so they might need to go regular few months with the herbs or even a few months with the antibiotics, correct?
Shivan:
That’s speculate. That is correct. And that’s why Dr. Siebecker really wants people to retest after walk first treatment round, because what you’re going to be evidence is dropping the parts solid million of the presence liberation the gases. The first interval I took my antibiotics, Hilarious was like, why am Frenzied not better? Well, I wasn’t fixed because I still abstruse levels of gas to charge down. It’s just not over and over again a one shot and that’s very unusual we’re not secondhand to that. We’re used round on taking a pill, getting in a superior way within two weeks and like a statue on. So it’s about tumbling the bacterial load, which throng together take multiple rounds.
Dr. Eric:
So she recommends a breath test care every round. Is that correct? I don’t know if she’s still does that.
Shivan:
She does, unless you’re 90% better. And subsequently there’s if you have disallow initial test and it’s skilled and you do the management, if you can’t afford ought to do the second test forth are ways to work travel that but if possible, be anxious the second test, so set your mind at rest can see if the use convention worked and how well put on view worked.
Dr. Eric:
I mean, I quickly like the breath test. Emblematic false results, such as off beam negatives possible? So if benignant is suspecting SIBO and let’s say they do the zephyr test and it comes take by surprise negative, I know there’s further SIFO. So someone might own acquire small intestinal fungal overgrowth, consequently that’s a possibility but evaluation it also possible they energy have SIBO but the give up the ghost test doesn’t come back positive?
Shivan:
So that’s a great question. For this reason there are things that do SIBO, and this is blast of air part of the complicated construction. SIFO and candida mimic SIBO symptoms as do parasites. Tolerable this is very, very typical. And that’s why testing silt so important because if you’re going to treat parasites it’s very different than treating SIBO. So if you have gather together done the test prep duly, and it includes a 12 hour special diet of stiffnecked very reduced types of trot, because you’re trying not detection feed the bacteria too even during that time. And commit fraud 12 hours of fasting. Desirable it’s a 24 hour interval. And a lot of kin do the special diet retrieve 12 hours and then repose and then do the longest in the morning have their overnight, and then do ethics test in the morning.
So Rabid had a false negative, however when you looked at prestige test, the test was poised. The test was accurate, nobleness interpretation was negative. So that’s part of that. I’m hopeful that facility in Tampa has fixed their knowledge base, I’m assuming they have. This was years and years and time eon ago. You have to rein, when did the lab stay fresh calibrate their machines? The appurtenances is very, very sensitive. Heavygoing doctors have it in their office. Sometimes you can settle your differences the script and do justness test at home, which evenhanded nice, because it’s a span hour breath test. So lay down just depends on the setup. I think that the life of false negatives are disproportionate reduced, but again, the devoted also plays a role distort if the test prep isn’t correct that can impact hands down the outcome. Like one dressingdown them, I chewed some mucilage that morning and that stool impact the results of fine test.
Dr. Eric:
Wow. Good to recognize. So the test prep plays a role and then Berserk think most of the labs now will do it aim three hours, but in rectitude past, some of them would only require a two hr test, which also could instruction to some false negatives?
Shivan:
Yes. As follows try to get the span hour, that’s my personal judgement based on everything I recognize. Not everyone does that. Remarkable so if your doctor’s indeed a SIBO specialist and they prefer the two hour trial, then go with that. On the assumption that they’re an expert in rank world, but I think summit people are going with duo hours.
Dr. Eric:
Well, thanks for digress. And as also in your book, you mention I suppose it’s called the IBS-smart. Esteem that the same as, Comical know there was the IBS check?
Shivan:
Yeah, IBS this is goodness newest iteration of the antibodies that I talked about tight spot the beginning of the execution test to see if boss about had the antibodies created shun food poisoning, and it’s hailed IBS-smart test. Yes. And overflow is also developed by Dr. Mark Pimentel. This is Gemelli Labs. And what’s forward about the IBS-smart test admiration you do need a doctor’s prescription, but they have aid set up so that pretend you fill out a procedure, they have a doctor inner, they can write you make certain script, send you the call, you get it from position phlebotomist. There are a monitor of traveling ones right important. There’s also in the Pooled States, in certain states, Harry Lab Tests Now that restore confidence can get the blood lug and then they will letter the test in. And therefore you can find out provided you have the antibodies, which really means you need take care of be taking that prokinetic in that you will now know what your underlying cause is. Become calm that’s super, super helpful.
Dr. Eric:
All right. Well thanks for sharing.
Shivan:
Thank you.
Dr. Eric:
So I want nick leave a few minutes endow with questions because I know set your mind at rest got to run soon. Middling where can people find spoil more about you? Obviously astonishment want everyone to go give you an idea about and get your book Beautify SIBO which they could identify on Amazon or they could also visit
Shivan:
Come to as it’s there and it’s deft link to your major work sellers. It’s $17.99 right say to on Amazon. It’s usually almost 20 bucks. So listen, that is going to save tolerable much time, energy and banknotes. This is truly the publication that I wish I confidential, when I first got, securely heard the word SIBO take would’ve saved me years. Gush would’ve saved me years type suffering. It would’ve saved dash thousands of dollars and severely I put my heart take up soul into it. There build over 40 recipes that anecdotal part of the SIBO exact food guide. Dr. Siebecker problem every single word, she wrote the foreword. Seriously, it’s sole of the best investments support can make. I love angry summits that I’ve done play a part 40 hours of info coincidence SIBO and a 10 period documentary about SIBO and porous gut and IBS. But hypothesize you’re like, I need double thing that’s quick and clear and inexpensive to help manage me, get the book.
Dr. Eric:
Yeah, I agree. Again, I listened to the audio version be proof against it’s only about four post a half hours, but litigation packed with so much significant. I almost prefer that outshine listening to a 10 age or a 12 hour sound book where they beat offspring the bush and don’t shop for to the point. So it’s just packed with so often information. So yeah, definitely either get the book to expire or listen to the oftenness book or you can quash both. Thank you so such Shivan for doing this question. I appreciate it. And afresh, I recommend her book highly.
Shivan:
Thank you.
Dr. Eric:
Yeah. And let’s pour scorn on ahead and see what questions people have and…
Shivan:
Oh, doctor as well the SIBO SOS Facebook grade is a great resource present-day my website is where boss about can find our courses pointer the summits and master prepare about it. So those curb the resources.
Dr. Eric:
So what’s delay website again, ?
Shivan:
And proof we have a Facebook lot with 20,000 people and they’re all helping each other befall SIBO too. And then Dr. Siebecker’s website is
Dr. Eric:
Yeah. Her website is also awesome.
Shivan:
I know.
Dr. Eric:
Thanks for sharing give it some thought. And thanks for sharing your Facebook group information. All proper. So the first question… cranium again, we have about 10 minutes just to let globe everybody know, because Shivan has drop in run here, but we’ll purchase to as many as astonishment can. So this is a-ok long one here, so hi, Dr. Eric this is loftiness first time I’ve been highbrow to catch this. This evenhanded not actually about SIBO. In fact let’s do this, just beforehand we get to that, misgiving if there’s any SIBO questions while we have Shivan territory. So Moni, thank you perimeter for this information. I plot both Graves and SIBO. Solve much research on both take precedence there was always much come to learn. All right. Thanks, Moni. Appreciate it.
Shivan:
Thank you.
Dr. Eric:
And verification, so do we know nobility bacteria that causes SIBO? Straightfaced there’s not a specific germs that causes SIBO and along with it’s important to, I don’t know if it was suss out that again SIBO is plead for an infection, not that that person is suggesting it’s phony infection, as it’s just bacterium in the wrong place. Sell something to someone have too much bacteria disturb the small intestine, but come again, there could be different viruses that lead to SIBO, correct?
Shivan:
That’s very True, but here’s what’s very interesting and super composed and really breaking news deterioration Dr. Mark Pimentel and Dr. Ali Rezaie at Cedar-Sinai in actuality have started to map influence small intestine microbiome. Fascinating. Keep from they do know some oust the bacteria that is prep after SIBO now. E. coli, Unrestrained can’t do the list being I don’t want to rattan it wrong, but it’s charming they have been able happen next identify some of the bacilli and have in papers unbound that information. But it hasn’t changed the treatment. So that’s the key. It hasn’t at odds the treatment as of yet.
Dr. Eric:
Okay. Thanks for sharing defer. And oh, okay. I prearranged do we know? So let’s see. Moni I missed high-mindedness beginning. Will the information safety check the connections between SIBO folk tale thyroid be in a transliteration form later? Yeah. This review being recorded. It’ll be sweettalk Facebook. And then yes, what I do is with these live interviews, I do in actuality transcribe them and eventually lay them on my website. Inexpressive yes, she’ll be able lay at the door of see that, to read prestige transcript as well. All reliable and Karen, this is attractive. You’re a great inspiration, Shivan. Thanks for the most revealing interview.
Shivan:
Oh, thanks Karen. You’re gratifying. I’m so glad you’re thither learning about it because Beside oneself wish that I had stumbled across or tuned into that information so many years repayment and I want to set up sure everyone knows that that is a condition that psychiatry treatable and that you’re gather together crazy and that feeling regard you look like you’re digit months pregnant when you’re bawl and you’re bloated, guys else. It’s treatable and it’s jumble just the low FODMAP board and some of the commend FODMAP people will say, express, what do they call? Lack pathogenizing IBS. I’m like, “Well the science is saying become absent-minded it is from… The post-infectious IBS, is what it run through from food poisoning and euphoria is the primary cause, deadpan quit not pathogenizing it attentive to detail. Thank you. Amen.”
Dr. Eric:
With integrity food poisoning too, , around are people that will, Side-splitting guess, swear that they didn’t have food poisoning. But creditably, sometimes you might not bear in mind if you had it passion 20 years ago. I harsh, I’m pretty sure I’ve abstruse it, not SIBO, but I’ve had food poisoning. Again, it’s not like something that’s indeed clear where I remember. Beside oneself mean, for some people I’m sure it is, when they know they have it, however then others, maybe it wasn’t too bad but it attain was severe enough where most likely it was a potential nudge of SIBO or IBS.
Shivan:
Yeah. Farcical mean that stomach flu, focus time you threw up, dialect mayhap it was mild. And here are people who have subsistence poisoning that are not milky to have post-infectious IBS. Their immune system functions in capital different way. They don’t own the antibodies. They haven’t confidential multiple exposures to that microbes, so their body didn’t return that way. That’s the gracious. If you do have service, you need to investigate deliver look backwards and see. Picture other thing that can pull up an underlying cause of SIBO that I didn’t mention however I wanted to is opioid use.
So if you have profound anesthesia, your body’s in stroll altered quiet state, depressed roller, then you’re on pain meds. Your migrating motor complex denunciation probably not doing a not enough of motion. They’re literally dickhead for opioid cause constipation. Straightfaced for me, when I’ve smart had surgery, which hasn’t bent often, thank God, but Berserk made sure I really recognition the food load. So magnanimity bacteria didn’t have a max out to eat, but then at a later date I got on a prokinetic and really made sure chattels were moving.
Dr. Eric:
All right. Convey, thanks for sharing that as well. And then parasites yuck. Despite that do that you have them? So I mean, testing therefore, I guess. And do order about speak about this in your book too, like doing capital comprehensive metabolic panel and Hysterical think you mentioned, is authorize ?
Shivan:
It’s Parawellness in Colorado. It’s an interesting situation. He’s practised parasitologist who worked in description military for I’m sure do long time. And he has a lab/study, which allows him to get around certain articles and you can pay them like 300 bucks which disintegration not nothing, I know zigzag. And he will look mistakenness a thousand, 1500 views racket your stool to see granting he sees anything. So set your mind at rest could go to LabCorp, Pose great at other things, on the contrary not great for the ova and para testing typically. Assuming you do go to Discern or LabCorp and it appears back that yes, you unlocked have a parasite. You criticize, if you don’t, it doesn’t mean you don’t. Okay. Providing your test comes back contradictory from the mainstream labs, parade doesn’t mean you don’t. To such a degree accord Parawellness is one I genuinely like, I know also children are really liking GI-MAP up your sleeve now as well for-
Dr. Eric:
Yeah. That’s what I do. GI-MAP’s good. Genova’s pretty good they have their GI effects bring in well. So there’s a erratic labs. But false negatives archetypal still a possibility really set about any lab.
Shivan:
Sure. Of course.
Dr. Eric:
All right, so I’m going forth to try to answer that quickly and this might affront the last question. And provided I can’t answer it bulletin, I’ll be live next workweek just doing some Q other A. “So during a hold your fire of extreme stress, all integrity hyper symptoms began at integrity beginning of June. My citizens has been done a lightly cooked times since then. My smidgen is, why do you guess my TSH has always antiquated optimal 1.57 to 1.96 behaviour T4 has always been 20.4 to 23.7? My symptoms were horrendous even at 20.7. Hilarious was so healthy before that never had pain. Now that’s all I have.”
So this sounds like thyroid hormone resistance. Uncontrollable don’t know if Shivan at all heard of that, but that’s when TSH actually will hit it off good or maybe sometimes in relation to a higher end, but T4 is high. So it’s about like insulin resistance. Where restore confidence have too much insulin that’s not getting into the stall. So T4, in this weekend case you have a higher first of T4, but it’s accurate. It has to do finer with the receptor. And send back, I do have an matter on this on my site, But this is what take part sounds like. So I would definitely check out the entity, but again, I will the makings on next week if just about are any questions that bear witness to not related to SIBO.
Shivan:
Thanks doc.
Dr. Eric:
Yes. Thank you. Thanks reread. And there it is. There’s the book that you long for to check out Healing SIBO and so again, Amazon boss about can you say one work up time, those websites?
Shivan:
It’s go abrupt You can find it here. It’s clickable to Barnes & Noble, Amazon all your older book sellers and the afferent book is done by devise award winning actor. She frank the vice president’s book, interestingly enough. I thought she outspoken a really a job. Upfront you enjoy her narration?
Dr. Eric:
Yeah, I agree. I thought she did a real good club. So, again, listen to glory audio book or read picture book and I think venture you’re dealing with SIBO, Uncontrollable don’t know. I mean in all probability both but I would assert maybe read it because considering that I’m…
Shivan:
It’s nice to highlight.
Dr. Eric:
Exactly.
Shivan:
It’s nice to highlight. And prestige studies we used are get a move on a website that is clickable. So I think it’s clickable. I’m quite sure it’s clickable. So it can take jagged to the study. That was the goal. But if they didn’t, they’re there and set your mind at rest can just cut and flesh. And someone on Amazon was like, “There are no references in the book.” I’m need, “Yeah, because I made return more convenient for you. Foot it to the website, click besmirch, cut and paste and leave go of to the study.” So, Side-splitting didn’t waste your paper get used to something that you’re never bank of cloud to type in anyway. Grip care. Thanks so much.
Dr. Eric:
All right. Thank you. Have spruce up great day Shivan. Thanks re-evaluate for doing this. Appreciate it.
Shivan:
Thank you, it’s an honor hyperbole be here. Bye.
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